Comments on: Where Does Bad Corporate Culture Come From, and Can It Be Corrected? http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/ Observations and thoughts on business management collected during my 5 careers Wed, 20 May 2009 18:46:31 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: frormagraitty http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-258 frormagraitty Wed, 20 May 2009 18:46:31 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-258 Nice internet site. hope to visit again:D Nice internet site. hope to visit again:D

]]> By: HRM Today - Blog Archive » Extreme Makeover: Corporate Culture Edition http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-73 HRM Today - Blog Archive » Extreme Makeover: Corporate Culture Edition Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:01:14 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-73 [...] to be willing to put time and energy into it; unfortunately, as Timothy F. Prosser observes in this recent On Effective Management post, “It is easy to become conditioned to expect abuse or just poor quality management behavior from [...] [...] to be willing to put time and energy into it; unfortunately, as Timothy F. Prosser observes in this recent On Effective Management post, “It is easy to become conditioned to expect abuse or just poor quality management behavior from [...]

]]> By: timprosser http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-66 timprosser Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:04:41 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-66 Thanks for your comment, "thenonconformer". The thrust of my entry above is that management skill is very personal, and that bad culture is a result of poorly understood and managed human nature. I want to encourage managers and would-be managers to do the introspective work and study that builds a foundation for good management skills. I agree that nepotism in any form, hiring friends and/or relatives, is a poor and clueless way to build an organization, and bound to produce lackluster results. Your point that nepotism brings in extra and inappropriate considerations based on the extra-business relationships is an excellent one, and occurs all too frequently. Such a situation certainly results in a degraded environment for decision making Thanks again - Tim Thanks for your comment, “thenonconformer”.
The thrust of my entry above is that management skill is very personal, and that bad culture is a result of poorly understood and managed human nature. I want to encourage managers and would-be managers to do the introspective work and study that builds a foundation for good management skills.
I agree that nepotism in any form, hiring friends and/or relatives, is a poor and clueless way to build an organization, and bound to produce lackluster results. Your point that nepotism brings in extra and inappropriate considerations based on the extra-business relationships is an excellent one, and occurs all too frequently. Such a situation certainly results in a degraded environment for decision making
Thanks again – Tim

]]> By: thenonconformer http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-65 thenonconformer Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:35:24 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-65 As to the bad corporate management.. Firstly there are positive and negative management styles that reflect one's own management or actual personal morality .. As to the overall really bad corporate management.. tend to be as a mostly general false tendency even these days to hire your friends into managerial positions.. bad friends who cannot be rebuked, chastised generally,, incompetent, ineffective friends with bad values like the person who hired them.. and alcoholics like to be with alcoholics too.. We have had 2 years of a great examples of this with the election of Stephen Harper and the new Conservative party of Canada who broke his promises and had initially said he would not hire his friends like the other parties, but next he hired hundreds of them into government jobs, mostly unqualified persons still too like Preston Manning of Consumer Affairs.. As to the bad corporate management.. Firstly there are positive and negative management styles that reflect one’s own management or actual personal morality ..

As to the overall really bad corporate management.. tend to be as a mostly general false tendency even these days to hire your friends into managerial positions.. bad friends who cannot be rebuked, chastised generally,, incompetent, ineffective friends with bad values like the person who hired them.. and alcoholics like to be with alcoholics too..

We have had 2 years of a great examples of this with the election of Stephen Harper and the new Conservative party of Canada who broke his promises and had initially said he would not hire his friends like the other parties, but next he hired hundreds of them into government jobs, mostly unqualified persons still too like Preston Manning of Consumer Affairs..

]]> By: timprosser http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-55 timprosser Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:31:05 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-55 Thanks for your comment, Dan. You are probably making a correct assessment of your situation, and there is undoubtedly a better assignment for you out there. You didn't say exactly how big (tall) the company you've joined is, but it gets harder to change the culture the farther one is from the top - the ultimate source of culture in almost all companies. I agree that the attitude that any function in a company is more disposable than another is a bad one, and creates an imbalance that inevitably undermines the firm's success. Salespeople are a key conduit for some of the most important information a company uses: knowledge of what the customers do with the product, what they want and don't want, and what they do or did as a substitute before they used your product, for example. I am sure you can find a company with a more positive culture, and which appreciates and gains the full benefit of sales people such as yourself. Such companies are out there, and I would bet they are among the most successful in their industries. Best of luck, and thanks again for the comment. - Tim Thanks for your comment, Dan.
You are probably making a correct assessment of your situation, and there is undoubtedly a better assignment for you out there. You didn’t say exactly how big (tall) the company you’ve joined is, but it gets harder to change the culture the farther one is from the top – the ultimate source of culture in almost all companies. I agree that the attitude that any function in a company is more disposable than another is a bad one, and creates an imbalance that inevitably undermines the firm’s success. Salespeople are a key conduit for some of the most important information a company uses: knowledge of what the customers do with the product, what they want and don’t want, and what they do or did as a substitute before they used your product, for example. I am sure you can find a company with a more positive culture, and which appreciates and gains the full benefit of sales people such as yourself. Such companies are out there, and I would bet they are among the most successful in their industries.
Best of luck, and thanks again for the comment. – Tim

]]> By: dan barnett http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/where-does-bad-corporate-culture-come-from-and-can-it-be-corrected/#comment-54 dan barnett Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:31:32 +0000 http://oneffectivemanagement.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-54 I liked your blog and I think a few of your personal anecdotes would be interesting. I found myself searching corporate culture today in an effort of understand a little better if the trend of many companies might be devaluing their own employees. Unfortunately, I believe I have joined a company who does not value their own salespeople and a prevailing corporate culture seems to emerge the longer I am there. I would think the cost of training new salespeople constantly would be a huge waste of company resources, yet there is constant turnover as though there is this endless supply of salesmen that they continue to hire in the hopes they find company drones to carry on. Aren't salesmen the primary source of revenue for a product driven company? I am so personally disappointed that I have misjudged and have been misled by this company and will have to start my career search all over again. Unfortunately, this prevailing company culture starts at the top and I'm starting to recognize it's festering infection into other areas including production and quality control. I do not have the energy to try to change this attitude with a national company and I'd rather expend my energy seeking other employment. What a shame. I liked your blog and I think a few of your personal anecdotes would be interesting. I found myself searching corporate culture today in an effort of understand a little better if the trend of many companies might be devaluing their own employees. Unfortunately, I believe I have joined a company who does not value their own salespeople and a prevailing corporate culture seems to emerge the longer I am there. I would think the cost of training new salespeople constantly would be a huge waste of company resources, yet there is constant turnover as though there is this endless supply of salesmen that they continue to hire in the hopes they find company drones to carry on. Aren’t salesmen the primary source of revenue for a product driven company? I am so personally disappointed that I have misjudged and have been misled by this company and will have to start my career search all over again. Unfortunately, this prevailing company culture starts at the top and I’m starting to recognize it’s festering infection into other areas including production and quality control. I do not have the energy to try to change this attitude with a national company and I’d rather expend my energy seeking other employment. What a shame.

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